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Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.04 20:39:00 -
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W i d e r F o n t W i d t h O p t i o n P l e a s e? |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.11 00:42:00 -
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Captain Alcatraz wrote:Why no forum font ingame? Modern fonts can be well readable w/o looking like it's taken from MS-DOS
Exactly, CCP by reinventing the wheel you will have a new font that will be not much better than the existing one.
Have you guys tried in-house using some common fonts like Verdana?
Actually, can you let us pick which font to use ingame?
Why so stubbon on inventing a new font? |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.11 01:57:00 -
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I'm using UI scale 90%.
Text selection bug http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6913/20111111013157.png Text selection bug http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9986/20111111013246.png Font size test, size 8 UNREADABLE http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6620/20111111013322.png Font size test, size 9 UNREADABLE http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/5105/20111111013330.png Font size test, size 10 UNREADABLE http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4070/20111111013335.png Font size test, size 11 http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8448/20111111013346.png Font size test, size 12 http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4791/20111111013354.png Font size test, size 14 http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6951/20111111013402.png Font size test, size 18 http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3727/20111111013416.png Font size test, size 24 http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/1885/20111111013424.png Menu font size 9 becomes too small to read http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/6992/20111111013622.png
Also notice the channel tabs are too small to read. |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.11 21:58:00 -
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The new font is terrible because of all the reasons above... CCP please don't try to design font because you're not good at it... just BUY a good one FFS... |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.13 17:11:00 -
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I know CCP is not going to change the font. But this is my personal ideal font for EVE:
A monospaced san-serif font that is easy to read at all scales, with a twist for a sci fi game:
Due to the nature of EVE information is vital, and a monospaced font will make it easier to format for example tables or copied data. Also it will make everything neater in any form of space excel (overview, market etc). It needs to be easy to read because there are many things in EVE are written in paragraphs. It needs to be legible at all scales because text in EVE are generally small. It needs to feel stylish enough in a way that it feels part of a futuristic scifi interface.
Right now, the new EVE font fails to achieve ANY OF THE ABOVE. I am a little mad.
A font fitting my description will be similar to Concolas or Eurostile or Bitstream. Letters perhaps more on the square side than round to continue the EVE font tradition.
Actually I just came across this font on the internet which looks pretty perfect for EVE to adopt: PragmataPro
CCP CAN WE HAZ BETTER FONT
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Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.15 23:55:00 -
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Jodis Talvanen wrote:Actually I just came across this font on the internet which looks pretty perfect for EVE to adopt: PragmataProCCP CAN WE HAZ BETTER FONT
Quoting for relevance, also please see this picture which explains some problems I have
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9032/20111115233157.png
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Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.16 12:04:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:90% scaling is more aimed at pilots with low resolution displays and are willing to have less readable text and get instead more space for windows Readability has nothing to do with "more space", a good font will scale correctly and be still readable when very small. I am highly disappointed that instead of at least explaining the technical limits you choosed to blame "more space for windows" just because you are unwilling or unable to tweak the pixels.
Also thanks for confirmimg the fact that CCP can never ever produce a good working font. I'm not sure I will be able to play with my laptop with a small-res screen anymore.
And the worse thing is that, at the smaller scale, the old font is actually more readable than the new font. At least I can make it into expanded width. But now I cannot. |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.16 13:16:00 -
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Simvastatin Montelukast wrote:
Hint, give her suggestions on how to make things better. (she listens)
Use (or copy) this font PragmataPro |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.16 22:43:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:Bloodpetal wrote:Can we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE have links turned Yellow like they used to be?
It's really hard to identify links when they're just bolded, it's not obvious enough that there is a link there.
There's many reasons that this should be done, but I don't feel I need to emphasize this much more. Ease of use, clarity, visual indications, etc. There were other people involved in that decision than me, so maybe you can make a special thread about it and I'll forward it to the right people? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=34616&find=unread |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.17 20:58:00 -
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Bloodpetal wrote:Double posted If you're curious why I set it up that way, it's to minimize time spent with curser movement between selecting different targets and being able to interact with the overview. Then shouldnt you have set UI scale = 90% lol
BTW imo layout clarity > cursor distance because the mind is a bigger bottleneck than the mouse |
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Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.18 02:20:00 -
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So we're not seeing some updates to the font then?
Now even at 100% scale when you set the menu size to 9, the text squeeze together and making it hard to read.
Can you not at least space out the letters a bit more?
Also can we have expanded width back? |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.18 20:47:00 -
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Spc One wrote:I have an idea.
In some cases old font is better than the new font. I suggest keeping old and new font (both fonts).
By default eve client will load new font, while player can still change font in eve client. I think this is very nice idea and i think it's doable. Supported.
I hate it when the NEW is suppoed to be better but it ISNT. |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.20 00:59:00 -
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You know what, the new font is so unpolished I'm just going to use the old font.
OH WAIT, WE CAN'T
QQ |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.26 13:47:00 -
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I agree on the font being incomplete and not ready for release. CCP please really don't released unfinished rubbish you really need to stop doing this.
Also, please see the following two screenshots. There seems to be a polished smaller font used in chat (which is good) but it is not used anywhere else in the UI.
@UI scale 90%, the smallest and the second smallest font in chat looks very polished unlike the other areas in the UI. Please use this polished font to replace the scambled text.
smallest font in chat is very nice: http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1622/20111126133434.png
second smallest font in chat as well: http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4994/20111126133511.png |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.27 18:55:00 -
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CCP please do not release this font because it is incomplete and unfinished.
PLEASE DELAY THE RELEASE or MAKE IT OPTIONAL (and make future updates) |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.27 23:33:00 -
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Because what will happen is that people will rage again because of this font, you dont want to have incursion 2.0 happening again |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.28 21:32:00 -
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Please don't release this font please don't release this font please don't release this font |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.29 01:06:00 -
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This is my font as well, it looks so much better than the new one IMO because it is crisp and clean, but the new one is fussy and "broken" around the corners |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.04 18:37:00 -
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Is CCP working to improve the new font or is it going to stay the same forever? |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.11 11:21:00 -
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CCP please reply: are you still working on the font or is this font finished |
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Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.12 12:48:00 -
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Sellendis wrote:Give us old font CCP.
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Just let us choose for gods sake.
Agreed everything. I want to use the old font |
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